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Thursday, January 19, 2023

Kenner's Batman The Animated Series action figures wave 2 (1993)

Justin: Well, we're back for round two. Or 'wave' two, rather. We discussed the first wave of BTAS action figures in this article. As per my collection of Wizard and Hero Illustrated magazines that I've combed through, I've deduced that the second wave of BTAS figures were released sometime mid-1993. Some of the wave two cardbacks read '1992', so that's a bit misleading.

Mark: When you first said Wave 2, I thought you meant the re-designs. This is the 2nd wave of the first original style.

Justin: Wave two of Kenner's BTAS toyline consisted of eight new figures (three of which were some variation of Batman), and some snazzy new vehicles... including <dramatic pause> The Batmobile.

Mark: I had the Batmobile. It never fit anywhere. It was so big.

Justin: Some vehicles and playsets released by Kenner's various toylines came packaged with a pamphlet/catalog marketing all the other rad toys they were producing in 1993. Flipping through it reminded me that Jurassic Park, Terminator 2 and Aliens were some of the other "big name" toylines Kenner was hawking at the time; I'd kind of "aged out" by the time these were released but still took a passing interest when I saw them on the toy shelves. Here's a few pages from the BTAS section of the pamphlet:

page from 1993 Kenner catalog
image source: Shogi's Toy Catalog Scans

page from 1993 Kenner catalog
image source: Shogi's Toy Catalog Scans

page from 1993 Kenner catalog
image source: Shogi's Toy Catalog Scans

page from 1993 Kenner catalog
image source: Shogi's Toy Catalog Scans

page from 1993 Kenner catalog
image source: Shogi's Toy Catalog Scans

Mark: I loved the villains. I still have the Man-Bat, Two-Face, Catwoman. Also, on a date in 2001, I bought a variation of the Batcave. I'm not sure why I thought it was a good idea to buy a huge Batman playset while I was on a date with a girl I was courting. I don't think she really minded, but it was a pain getting it home on the subway. I regretted buying it forever. It was just so big. I'm an action figure guy. I also want that Penguin now.

Justin: Alright, so let's start with the action figures. We'll begin with the heroes and conclude with the villains. It's worth noting that, starting with this wave, Kenner's BTAS action figures were starting to get more innovative: less spring-loaded projectile accessories, and more 'power actions'.

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Justin: Infared Batman. This burgundy Batman came with a backpack accessory that fired plastic orange discs. I believe he came with two discs. This was just your standard repainted Batman fig that came with a new accessory -- Kenner did this a lot starting with the 1990 Dark Knight Collection toyline. Hey, if the kids want Batman, give them Batman. I've never seen this one on the toy shelves or at any flea markets. Of course, if I had, I probably would've overlooked him since he didn't seem that 'special' to me. All things considered, his burgundy/black color scheme wasn't terrible and remained conducive to him sulking around in the shadows -- so yeah, not the worst of the bunch. 

Mark: Not to be a Negative Ned over here, but I'm not a fan of "Let's repaint the original mold and give it a new accessory" model of toy making. Was this even ever in the cartoon? A red chest piece? Bat signals being fired? What does that even mean?


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Sky Dive Batman (left) next to Turbojet Batman (right)
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Justin: Remember in our last article when I said that Turbojet Batman looked like he was wearing parachute straps? Well, I guess someone at Kenner thought the exact same thing, since Sky Dive Batman is just a repainted Turbojet Batman, but with a parachute accessory so you could launch him in the air. They wisely opted to repaint him to bright orange so he was easier to spot when he was stuck in a tree or on the roof of a neighbor's house. He came with a cape, so even without his parachute accessory, he was still playable. Still, I wasn't very interested in this version of Batman whatsoever. 

Mark: Pass on all of these re-paints. Although, as a Dad, I do like your theory on why they paint it, so it doesnt get lost in a neighbor's tree.

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Justin: Bruce Wayne with snap-on Batman armor... I had him and loved him! He was one of the few BTAS figs I ever bought that didn't require much deliberation. Actually, it was a no-brainer: for the price of one action figure you got Bruce Wayne AND Batman. His snap-on armor looked far better than Kenner's Dark Knight Collection/Batman Returns quick change Bruce Wayne figure... who looked like a guy who bought the cheapest Batman cosplay costume he could find on Amazon. Armored-up, he looked a bit like Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns Batman. It would've been nice if he had knees so he could've sat with the rest of the Justice League at the computer console of my Hall of Justice, but I made do. I also remember using an exacto knife to remove the tip of his gun accessory so I can use it as a makeshift batarang -- I felt it was more comic accurate than Batman carrying a gun.

Finding a complete, loose Bruce Wayne with snap-on Batman armor is a bit daunting. Most of the time, people will be selling it missing some of the armor pieces and swearing to you that it's complete. You can live without the gun, but you're really going to want all six of those snap-on armor pieces [helmet + cape, 2 x arm pieces, 2 x leg pieces, and chest plate]. 

Mark: I have never seen this one, but I love it. It does have a Dark Knight fighting Superman feel to it.

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Justin: Ninja Robin here was kind of interesting. His right arm had some extra articulation at the elbow joint so that when you squeezed his legs together it would swing downwards in a chopping motion. This is feels like a welcome throwback to Kenner's Super Powers Collection with the 'power action' feature. Ninja Robin also came with a detachable black helmet, nunchucks, a bo staff, and a black cape. Overall, I like this figure -- being a ninja is in-theme with the Batman family thing, he has a neat power action and still looks good without his helmet [but the helmet is definitely a bonus]. He was re-released in a two-pack with Ninja Batman the following year, albeit with a different paint job and accessories.

Mark: Why not just make him all black, with a little splash of red, green and yellow? Feels a tad disjointed, but I like the illustration and the helmet.


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Justin: The first female character in the BTAS toyline: Catwoman. There's some major similarities between her and Kenner's Batman Returns Catwoman if you look beyond the accessories and color scheme: she had the same 'power action' [put a whip in her right hand, push arm upwards and she'll snap it back down -- creating a 'whipping motion'], and the same pose [but was actually able to stand upright unassisted]. This version of Selina Kyle comes with a few interesting accessories... in addition to her whip, she came with 'cat claws' that you could snap onto her wrists and a little plastic cat that sat on her shoulders. While the little plastic cat actually doesn't do anything except sit there, this would be the beginning of little plastic animal accessories being included with some figs. 

I don't have much to add except that I don't run across flea markets or toy vendors selling BTAS Catwoman very often -- so that makes her pretty rare. Kenner only made one Catwoman figure in the BTAS toyline -- she and Poison Ivy were the only female figures in a collection of thirty-something action figures. 

Mark: I gave this to my wife. She wore a similar Catwoman costume to our law school Halloween Party, and I gave it to her to hang in the room she studied for the bar in. I think its a great figure, and sad that the only two female figures were Ivy and Catwoman. NO HARLEY QUINN!?!?!??!?!?! That just struck me. How is that even possible? I do remember there was a Batgirl in the updated figures.

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Justin: It's the Joker! As mentioned before, I can't believe they waited until the second wave before releasing Batman's arch-nemesis. This is very much a 'what you see is what you get' figure. It's Joker, in his classic purple suit, with an obnoxiously large water cannon. You filled his little backpack up with water, attached the cannon to his arm, and squeezed his backpack to squirt water from the cannon. [For anyone keeping track, this was the third Joker figure in the last 5 years to somehow incorporate water into his gimmick See: ToyBiz Joker and Dark Knight Collection Sky Escape Joker.] Joker also came with a little plastic gas mask that looked cool.

There was another BTAS-styled Joker that had a similar look and color scheme to him. If you're ever rummaging through a vendor's bin of loose figs, you can quickly tell the two apart because this version had a small hole in his back that his backpack could hook onto, whereas the other one doesn't.

This version of the Joker had a small hole in his back.
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 Mark: Classic joker. I never put water into the little watergun. Does it work? That gas mask is hot. Could you technically fill the watergun with gas and spray gas like a villain?



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Justin: Scarecrow. Sorely needed to fill out my Legion of Doom roster, I never bought this guy because I never saw him on the toy shelves. Scarecrow had two things going for him: first, when you shone light through the top of his hat, his red eyes lit up (a la Super Powers Collection Darkseid). Second, he had a 'thumb wheel' on his back that caused his right arm to start spinning -- if he was holding his sickle weapon accessory in his right arm it made for a very impressive 'power action' feature. Scarecrow also came with a little plastic crow accessory that could be perched on his arm. Overall, a very cool figure and I wish I had one.

Thumb wheel on the back of Scarecrow.
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Mark: I loved this figure. He might be my favorite of the original waves. Kind of off kilter and scary. The sickle would always fall out of his hand though. That happened with a lot of the little weapons. The crow didn't want to stay on him either. Still a fun figure, my 10/10 in the collection.


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Justin: I remember Man-Bat quite vividly. Man-Bat was massive in scale compared to all the other figs (except maybe Clayface). He also included a button on his back that, when pressed, caused his wings to flap and his head to rise up. This, included with a tow cable that could be used to wrap around other figs, made for a very cool-looking and fun action figure. Interestingly, Man-Bat was one of those 'lesser know' Bat-villains that received a lot of attention in BTAS, and became an example of a character the cartoon elevated from obscure to not-so-obscure. How obscure could he have been? It's been confirmed that if Kenner's Super Powers collection toyline hadn't been cancelled in 1986, we would've gotten a Man-Bat action figure. 

Mark: This one was a favorite of my wife and daughter because it flapped. I actually got this one in the 8 villain collection that they put out. The flapping wings was an accomplishment, for sure.

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Justin: And now for the wave two vehicles. Mark previously expressed that he didn't have much interest in the non-iconic vehicles, so I'll just go through these myself:


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Bat-Signal Jet with missile attached to nose of craft.
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Justin: The Bat-Signal Jet didn't do very much; it could probably be best described as a flashlight that Batman could lie on. On yeah, and it launched a spring-loaded missile from the nose of the craft. In short, it was a very lackluster vehicle and required two AA batteries [housed under the section Batman lay on].


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Justin: One of Batman's more unique vehicles; it's the B.A.T.V.. I'm having a bit of trouble describing this... it was like a ski-doo with tractor treads, but you could slightly raise the hood of the vehicle to activate 'Battle Mode'. When you raised the hood, the front skis became 'rollerblades' and guns popped out of the hood (which also doubled as an armored shield). No matter which mode you chose, there was still a spring-loaded projectile that could be fired from the front of the vehicle. I kind of like the idea of this: the transformation from regular vehicle to attack mode. The look and feel of the vehicle kind of gives me a 'G.I. Joe' vibe. Anyways, I don't think I've ever seen this at flea markets in one whole piece -- kids were pretty rough on this toy.

'regular mode'
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'battle mode'
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I'm going to boldly guess that this vehicle was meant for Kenner's Batman Returns toyline, but for whatever reason was cancelled and re-purposed for the BTAS toyline. I'm saying this because, incidentally, there were NO snow or ice-themed villains in this wave, so why would this vehicle be relevant? However, this would've been perfect when Batman battled Oswald Cobblepot and his legion of penguins strapped with rockets. Just a wild guess, of course. The third wave would bring us a Mr. Freeze action figure and the aptly-named 'Ice Hammer' vehicle meant for thwarting Mr. Freeze. 


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Justin: The Robin Dragster. This vehicle is so stupidly rare that I've never even seen one in person -- I've never know anyone who owned one, and I've never seen it being sold by any vendors. Apparently, it was determined that this vehicle was considered a rarity shortly after its release, since my 1997 Toyfare Special lists a Mint-In-Box Robin Dragster at $310 USD and a loose Robin Dragster at $110 USD. Why does Robin even need a 4x4 off-road vehicle? I thought he was more of a motorcycle and hang-glider type of guy? Probably for the same reason Superman needs a Justice Jogger, I guess. 

***UPDATE: Thanks to @TheAllen_Knight and Sean from Batman-News.com for confirming that the Robin dragster was super rare due to the original mold being destroyed in a factory fire. Only a small number of dragsters made it out to retailers before the fire, and it was too expensive for Kenner to create new ones.*** 

This vehicle did a few things: you could pull on the cross bar at the back of the vehicle to raise it into the 'high-rider' position and make it taller, the green windshield could be pulled back to expose two guns, and there was a yellow spring-loaded batarang projectile on the back.

regular position
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'high rider' position
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weapons exposed
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FUN FACT: Both the Robin Dragster and the Joker Mobile were actually vehicles slated for Kenner's Dark Knight Collection toyline, but were cancelled and re-designed for the BTAS toyline. I only know this because I stumbled upon a 1991 Kenner catalog showcasing these exact vehicles but with different names and color schemes:

page from 1991 Kenner catalog
image source: Shogi's Toy Catalog Scans


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Justin: The heroes weren't the only ones getting vehicles. Introducing the Jokermobile... another vehicle I don't remember seeing in the BTAS cartoon. As previously mentioned, this was actually the Joker Mobile from Kenner's Dark Knight Collection, but modified to fit the BTAS aesthetic. This was a fun toy: it was a roadster that, when you slid the yellow hood back, turned into an assault vehicle exposing two anti-aircraft guns and a joker face. In addition, the lower jaw of the joker face at the front of the Jokermobile doubled as a spring-loaded projectile.

roadster mode
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attack mode
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Justin: Saving the best for last, the second wave brought us the most iconic vehicle of the BTAS collection: the Batmobile. Really, if you had to pick only one vehicle from the entire toyline, this is the one you wanted. Curiously, there was only one Batmobile released in the BTAS toyline, making it quite a sought-after piece.

The Batmobile was made of sturdy plastic and was pretty long. It could only seat one action figure, who needed to be slid in through the top of the cockpit, and of course that figure needed to be pretty slim. As the BTAS toyline was more-or-less in scale with Kenner's Super Powers Collection and Toy Biz DC comics figs, you had quite few options on who could drive the BTAS Batmobile. As for weapons, it had little claws that extended from the front wheels, but the vehicle itself was devoid of any spring-loaded projectiles to be fired. (Imagine that!) Instead, you could extract the Launching Pursuit Jet (that neatly tucked into the driver's cockpit), which included a bomb that could be dropped. I thought this was a pretty fun toy; it kept with the sleek BTAS aesthetic and was basically two-vehicles-in-one. I actually still own one, and here's a few pics:

Claws extended from the Batmobile's two front wheels.


Crime Busters Torpedo Batman posing with the BTAS Batmobile.
The Batmobile had an ejector button that released the canopy so you could slide a driver into the cockpit.

Despite my best efforts, Torpedo Batman couldn't fit in to the cockpit -- his shoulders were too broad.
Well, so much for my original statement about all BTAS Batmen being able to drive.

I tried a few other Kenner Batmen figs from the Dark Knight Collection and none of them fit. Thankfully, Robin here from Batman Returns did the trick.

One of the more interesting things about the BTAS Batmobile was the Launching Pursuit Jet hidden inside the cockpit. There was no release button to extract it, so you had to pull it out manually. The jet had fold out wings and a little plastic bomb underneath.

My Launching Pursuit Jet is missing it's bomb, so here's what you should be looking for.
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Justin: When buying a BTAS Batmobile from a vendor ensure the cockpit canopy isn't missing or broken, as they are the most common issue. There's a 75% chance the Launching Pursuit Jet's bomb will be missing, too. 

Mark: I never knew what to do with mine. It was a really hot design, but just so big. I used to sit the figures on it, like Robin would be in the driver's seat, and some villains would sit on the hood.

Justin: So, Mark, of all the Batmobiles from Batman '66 to 1997's Batman & Robin film, where would you rank the BTAS Batmobile? 

Mark: This is the best design ever for the Batmobile. In the comics, movies, whatever, THIS is my favorite.

Justin: For my money, it will always be the Batman 89 Batmobile. I'm also including the Batman Returns Batmobile in there, since both essentially had the same design.

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Justin: It was around this time that the only BTAS playset was released... The Batcave Command Center:

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Justin: The Batcave Command Centre was the exact same Batcave playset from Kenner's Batman Returns collection, just repainted and re-packaged. Kenner re-used this playset a third time when it was re-released again as the Wayne Manor Batcave playset for 1997's Batman & Robin collection (based on the film). Regretfully, I've never owned any of the three. Having never owned this, I can only speculate how it would've enriched my life. Let's take a look at all the snazzy things it did: 

image from side of box
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Based on this box, The Batcave Command Centre had 1) a chamber that allowed two action figures to swap places with each other, 2) 'break-away' skylights so Batman could come crashing through, and 3) a 'break-away' catwalk so an action figure could unwittingly fall to their doom (probably due to hubris). And then, of course, there were the other little embellishments that made it interesting: the secret entrance to the Batcave via the grandfather clock, a computer console (but how can he sit when he doesn't have knees?), a zip-line so Batman could swing through the front doors and make an entrance, a garage door for the Batmobile, and anti-gravity hooks (how do you think he gets those chiseled abs?). Yeah, I would've loved this as a kid.

I don't have the exact dimensions, but this playset was pretty large... much bigger than the ToyBiz Batcave. I mean, this thing was sprawling. Note the hinges between the sections? It's so you could fold it up and make it more compact, hence not take up so much room in the house when you put it away:

one side of the 1993 BTAS Batcave Command Centre 
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The playset actually three locales in one: a Batcave, the front entrance and interior of Wayne Manor, and some sort of industrial-looking chemical plant (Ace Chemicals?).   

front of Wayne Manor when Batcave Command Centre was folded up
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Other than that, I don't really have much to add since I've never seen one in person. Based on photos I've seen, this Kenner Batcave playset appears to be far superior in quality and design than the ToyBiz Batcave. I can't tell you how rare they are or what pieces are commonly missing since I've never seen a complete one up close. In the early 2000s, Hasbro re-released the Batcave Command Centre in its Gotham City Darkstorm collection, and it seemed pretty accurate to the original (and included an exclusive Alfred action figure). BraveFortress.com wrote a review about it, and if it's as good as they say do in their review, I can see this being a real trophy piece. 

Mark: I owned the 1997 one. It was such a hassle for me to figure out what to do with it. I never knew how to display it in my small Brooklyn apartments, and whenever I moved, I always had to put it in a box so it wouldn't break in transit. I sold it at some point. I remember when I was 9 I was OBSESSED with getting Castle Grayskull from Masters of the Universe. I imagined my life would be perfect if I would just get it. My Dad got it for me for my 10th birthday, and within a week I had no idea what to do with it. Action figures I could create worlds with, playsets would somehow limit the worlds I created. Same with displays. Just me. Fun design though. Good stickers.

Justin: Yeah, as a fellow toy collector, I can totally relate to your first statement. Sometimes, playsets are like white elephants: they're too sacred to get rid of, but you don't really have the room in your living space to display them... so they end up getting packed away in storage.

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Justin: Alright, that wraps up our review of the BTAS wave two collection. I know there were deluxe BTAS figures released around this time, but we'll dedicate an article to that someday in the future (if we feel like it). Not sure how much steam Mark and I have left to cover the next few wave of this toyline, since there was, like, 6 waves of figures released.

Friday, June 29, 2018

Neal Adams talks Batman villains, Continuity Comics and Bucky O'Hare

Neal Adams is a fascinating speaker -- he's interesting, he knows how to control the flow of a discussion and he's humorous. Attendees of the 2018 Ottawa Comiccon were very lucky to be treated to a one-hour Q&A Panel with Adams on the first day of the convention. When Neal Adams speaks, comic fans can't help but gather to listen.

The first twenty minutes of his Q&A panel had Neal Adams delivering a monologue encouraging new artists/writers to self-publish since most publishers are hesitant to take a chance on any concepts that seem 'too new'. Examples he cited were Dave Sim (creator of Cerebus the Aardvark) and Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (creators of Superman from back in the 1930s). It was essentially a 'Don't give up your dream' speech. The rest of the panel was opened up for fans in attendance to ask questions.

I often tend to forget that Neal Adams played a big part in building some of the more popular elements of the Batman mythos; Neal worked on Batman in the early 1970s for several years and  was integral in helping Batman lose his 'campy' Batman '66 image and bringing him back to being a grim and brooding dark knight. I was the first to ask about the inspiration behind the new Batman rogues Neal Adams introduced.


THE CREATION OF THE LEAGUE OF ASSASSINS

Neal Adams: "That [idea] came from Murder Incorporated. Murder Incorporated was a semi-International murder/assassination organization that existed in the world. You also have the Yakuza. So there already were organizations like that -- at least two -- in the world. To pick up an idea that was lying around the street available for anybody, the League of Assassins was a very very logical thing to do."



First appearance of the League of Assassins from Strange Adventures #215 (1968). Art by Neal Adams.

Members of Murder Inc. photo source: Mafia Wiki



RA'S AL GHUL

Neal Adams: "The idea of Ra's Al Ghul is a little bit different. I was doing Batman with Denny O'Neil for Julius Schwartz, and [we] were trying NOT to do clowns, because basically -- you see, you guys don't necessarily know this because you're not old enough to know this -- Batman and his villains come from Dick Tracy. Dick Tracy had all these [villains]... Prune Face, Flat Top, The Blank... so when Bob Kane and Bill Finger were doing Batman, basically they stole the ideas of these crazy-weird guys from Dick Tracy. So we get the Mad Hatter, the Joker, the Penguin and all these kinda off-beat characters. A little hard to believe that a real Batman would be fighting these guys -- but you believed it with Dick Tracy, so why not Batman?"

"So when Denny and I picked up doing Batman, the question was: do we bring in the clowns? Not to begin with. So we didn't at the beginning, but we knew that sooner or later we were going to HAVE to. I went to Julie [aka Julius Schwartz] and told him that Batman needs a Moriarty. Julie said "what do you mean?" and I explained that we were going to start doing the Joker and the Riddler and the Two-Face, and we NEED a Moriarty. We need a real villain that's AS GOOD as Batman, because Sherlock Holmes -- the greatest detective in the world -- had Moriarty. As we all know. And he did well by him, if it wasn't for Moriarty, who knows if we would've had a successful Sherlock Holmes? We NEEDED one. Julie said "let me think about that"."

First appearance of Ra's Al Ghul & Ubu from Batman v1 #232 (1971)
Illustrated by Neal Adams and inked by Dick Giordano 

Neal Adams: "Julie came in on Monday and said "Ra's Al Ghul!" My reaction: "What does that mean?" He replied "It means that's your new villain. It translates to 'Head of the Demon' in arabic. It's up to you to figure out what he looks like." So I did. That was my job. He looks sorta like Jack Palance if you shaved his head back a little bit. Do you know who Jack Palance is? Evil, evil actor. A wonderful evil actor -- for those of you who are old enough to know: when Jack Palance came on the screen you'd start to shudder. His eyes were close together and sunken in his head -- just a horrible-looking guy. He was the villain in 1953's Shane. So that was Ra's Al Ghul. It launched Batman with a NEW villain, and then we can bring in the clowns, because there was always Ra's Al Ghul lying in the background. You don't see much of Ra's Al Ghul if you think about it. He's sort of like that entity that's waiting back there to mess everything up. And sometimes you think that Ra's Al Ghul is trying to be a good guy -- and then he kills a few people and you go "well I guess he's not"."

actor Jack Palance circa 1954. source: wikipedia 



MAN-BAT

Neal Adams: "Batman NEEDED a Ra's Al Ghul, and I think he needed a Man-Bat. He needed a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde who is not exactly a clown -- so I created THAT. By the way -- Man-Bat -- when is he going to appear in a movie? He's in the cartoons, he's in the toys, but he's not in the movie. They keep on resurging Two-Face. What's the deal with that? I don't get it."

Man-Bat from Detective Comics v1 #407 (1971).
Illustrated by Neal Adams and inked by Dick Giordano.



CONTINUITY COMICS

Back in 1984, a very small and relatively unknown (unknown to me, anyways) publisher was sporadically releasing comic books. This publisher was called Continuity Comics. Early titles you may recognize included Captain Power and the Soldier of the Future, Zero Patrol, Revengers, Armor, Echo of FuturePast (first appearance of Bucky O'Hare), and Toy Boy. During the late eighties, Continuity Comics really began stepping up their game and started releasing a flurry of new titles: Megalith, Ms Mystic, Cyberrad, Hybrids, Samuree, Crazyman, a big cross-over called DeathWatch 2000, another cross-over called Rise of Magic, and then... nothing. I always wondered what happened to this publisher. It was only a few years ago that I discovered that it was Neal Adams' publishing company. I've always wondered what happened to Continuity Comics...

Neal Adams: "Remember we had that thing in comics when all these collectors jumped into comics and started to buy all these issues? And we were getting sales of upwards a million copies per issue? A lot of you guys don't know about it because it's fading into the precincts of history... a lot of guys thought that they could make so much money from comic books by buying boxes and boxes of comic books. SO suddenly, a comic that you wouldn't expect to sell that well... sold a million copies. The comic book stores are going 'This is great! This is fantastic!'."

house ad in Continuity Comics circa 1991

Neal Adams: "Until one day, all these crazy guys who thought they could make all this money on comic books called each other and said "If we all do this, and put boxes and boxes of comic books in the garage, we'll never make any money on this! To hell with this! I'm quitting!." Boom! The next day -- nobody's buying 'em -- they're in the stores. 1500 stores went out of business. 1500 stores! People were selling comics for 50 cents a piece in boxes at the front of the store. You can't stay in business that way... you just paid $1.50 for those books, and now you're selling them for 50 cents! So they went out of business. Diamond [Comic Distributors] had to finance a whole bunch of comic book stores. We almost lost the business with this crazy collector nuttiness... and nobody backed off from it... they all thought "Oh! Money to be made!". Well, it was stupid."



Neal Adams: "Unfortunately we got caught in the middle. We had done Deathwatch 2000 -- it was a cross-over within our comic books. We had gone from selling 15,000 copies to selling 100,000 copies per issue per title for 3 months... I put 3 million dollars in the bank... and then everything fell out. And so, instead of going bankrupt (which certain comic book publishers did), I just backed off and went into advertising. And so our studio has been doing advertising since then until I started to get back into comic book now. And now we're going to go back into publishing. Carefully. Very very carefully."


Editor's note: A few years ago, I manage to acquire a small collection of Continuity Comics from the early 90s and decided to binge-read them on a long weekend. Most of the titles I read were pretty interesting -- they all had that Neal Adams realistic-type art and the colors were very vibrant -- and you could feel the plot momentum picking up as the books progressed. Continuity Comics went defunct a little too soon before they could fully mature and gain a strong cult-like following. I am curious to see what the new Continuity Comics will be like.   



DEATHWATCH 2000 TRADING CARD SET

In 1993, Continuity Comics released a 100-card trading card set celebrating their BIG comic book cross-over event: DeathWatch 2000. I do remember seeing these in stores, but didn't know these characters well enough to actively want to collect these cards. It always did strike me as odd, however, that there was a chase subset within the card set featuring Shaquille O'Neal, Ken Griffy, Jr. and Manon Rheaume -- three professional athletes being featured in a very decidedly NON-sports trading card set.

DeathWatch 2000 Shaq and Ken Griffey Jr. insert cards. source: www.tradingcarddb.com


Neal Adams explained: "You have to remember that those cards were produced by another company, and that company is a sports card company. They worked with us and planted that stuff with us, with a plan in mind that we were going to continue to move on with it. And we ended up not continuing on with it."



THE ORIGIN OF BUCKY O'HARE

Bucky O'Hare will forever be remembered as a cartoon about a bunch of anthropomorphic animals (led by a green rabbit) who piloted a spaceship and had galaxy-spanning sci-fi adventures. The cartoon had a really catchy theme song, a Nintendo game, and a series of highly-articulate action figures. Like, seriously, this could've held up against Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And then... as quickly as it appeared... Bucky O'Hare vanished. Neal Adams told us all about the rise and fall of this rabbit.

Neal Adams: "It became a television show for one season, and then Hasbro ruined it. Now we're coming back with it."

screenshot from Bucky O' Hare and the Toad Wars episode 1 (1991)


Neal Adams: "I'll tell you how it all happened: understand that I'm a socialist in the worst way. I foment trouble. That's what I do. I look like a fireman or a cop, right? But I'm a fomentor, okay? I'm always going to be doing SOMETHING that's going to upset SOMEBODY... all the time."

"What was I going to do here? I was going to go to Europe with certain properties and go to the Frankfurt Book Fair and show the properties and sell them to one magazine or another (or a book publisher). They would buy it, and I would come back to America and I would take it to DC or Marvel comics and they would say "Oh! I like that! We'll do it as a comic book!" and I would have to say "Gee, I'd like to sell it to you as a comic book, but I can't -- I sold first-time rights in Germany... so you can buy second-time rights or third-time rights.. but you can't buy FIRST-time rights". They'd reply "What does this mean?" and I'd reply "What this means is that you DON'T own it! You can NEVER own it! But you can use it, and you can print it... but you can never own it." Like, let's say I brought Torpedo from overseas and brought it to America -- nobody in America could own it because it's owned in Europe (or the first-printing rights are owned in Europe -- which I can withdraw)."

"So this creates a problem for American publishers. American publishers WANT the first crack at it, but I'm taking Howard ChaykinMichael Golden (and other different really good artists) to Europe, selling their properties, to the first-time licensor and then bringing them back to America. So I went to people in my studio who I thought were good, intelligent and creative. I went to Larry Hama and I said "Larry, do you have any characters you'd like to do?" and he said "yeah, I've got this bunny... this rabbit... an intergalactic rabbit." I asked "well, what's he named?" and Larry replied "Buck Bunny". I said "Buck Bunny? okay... So how about writing it? I will take it to Europe and try to sell it. I will license it. I will control it. But you will OWN it." I don't own Bucky O'Hare -- Larry Hama does. I control it, which is -- for me -- better, because then I can fight people. Which is good."

panel from Bucky O' Hare #3 (1991). Art by Michael Golden.

Neal Adams: "So, we had to find an artist. Who could we find to do this? Who was the most brilliant artist I could think of? Michael Golden. It took him about a year, and he did six pages. So, I took him to Frankfurt, along with with other stuff that we did, and I presented it to this guy named 'Bilar' from Germany -- and he [Bilar] looks at it and says "Ha! Bucks Bunny? Ve haff a Bucks Bunny! Ve get it from Varner's!". Oh crap. (It did sound a little like 'Bugs Bunny', didn't it?) So, I'm in Chicago and I'm designing a show called 'Warp'. (Some of you guys may have heard about it. And if you haven't -- too bad. It doesn't matter [for this story].) So we're heading for the airport and my wife, Marilyn, looks at the sign to the airport and she says "O'Hare! O'Hare is a rabbit, too, isn't it?". I said "yes, it is... Bucky O'Hare." So that's how 'Bucky O'Hare' got his name. So now it's 'Bucky O'Hare', now I can sell it."

House ad from a Continuity Comic promoting the new TV show & Hasbro action figures.

Neal Adams: "Now we started to peddle it: we did a television show (13 episodes), we did toys, we did licensing. Between LarryMichael and myself, we made 3 million dollars... and then Hasbro pulled the plug on it because they screwed up the distribution."

Fun fact: Neal Adams co-wrote the Bucky O'Hare cartoon theme song.



To close, Neal Adams talked a bit about his plans for Deadman -- but we interviewed him BEFORE the panel about this, and he gave us a more in-depth interview -- which you can read here. He also explained the origins of the comic book Direct Market, but it's a pretty long and involved story, so we may post that at a later date. All in all, it was a very enlightening Q&A session and I learned many things I was previously unaware of.

Once again, we wanted to thank the 2018 Ottawa Comiccon and Leeja Murphy and the rest of the Agence Pink for this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to hear Neal Adams speak about the characters we grew up reading about and watching on TV throughout our youths.

-Justin Francoeur